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Post by fordflathead on Jul 9, 2015 17:27:44 GMT 1
Take a look at this ad. Has society and the police totally flipped? This is something some of us has been questioning for years when it will happen, and now it is reality. This is a well known and presumably harmless collector who with great effort at personal expenses have done a fine job of preserving unique historical items for future generations to see. Chance is this tank had been gone forever if he did not rescue it from a scrapyard in the 70s. Who is next in line? When will they come searching my home, stamp me into the mud, handcuff me, throw me in jail and destroy my collection of "war material"? Hope this gentleman has a very good lawyer who will restore justice and secure the owner of the tank a solid compensation of money from authorities (the taxpayer has to bleed) for damage to tank and property, and humiliation. As usual the press do what they can to ruin the victims life by speculating and fabricating fairytales. www.3d-madonnari.com/the-pensioner-confiscated-tank/
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gwb
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Main Interest: Airfield Ground Vehicles German and US, 1912 - 1970
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Post by gwb on Jul 9, 2015 21:31:38 GMT 1
Hello!
Private ownership of tanks, other war weapons or former war planes in Germany is possible, but it requires a lot of paperwork.
According to the available information the man in Keil only had a permission from the local authorities but no allowance according to the German Weapons of War Control Act controlled by the Federal Office of Economics and Export Control. Even a tank is deactivated according to the law, it must be registered and approved too. This is a relict from the post WW2 demilitarization of Germany and is based on regulations made by the Allied Control Council.
Best Regards Guenter
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Post by fordflathead on Jul 12, 2015 19:25:04 GMT 1
The example from the UK I did not know about, and it looks horrifying and absurd. Did any of the ammunition still contain explosives? Well, if so, disarm those, but why destroying harmless steel chunks? I can not believe they destroyed the whole collection? I assume it was "just" the ammunition part of it, or what? Common sense seems to have disappeared in some official circles. As society has become more and more regulated in recent years, the words "weapon" and "gun" now makes politicians, journalists and police officials flip backwards in their chairs when someone says them. It is absurd to spend resources on harassing peaceful citizen preserving the nations heritage, instead of focusing on the real threat to society from extremist groups. What harm did the 78 year old man in Kiel pose to the community? Why could not the tank and other stuff stay in his garage at least until the case had been settled in court? Couldn't they made a peaceful agreement that after his time the tank would be transferred to an official museum? Instead they harass him and destroys his life work in his last years. Where is common sense here? This is a big shame. And why does not other official persons devoted to preserving heritage, like museum directors, historicans and cultural managers, step forward and defend the man? Are they just glad to get rid of a competitor? Even the mayor of the city seems to have turned his fellow citizen down, even though the city council apparently gave him permission to keep the tank in the first place. Yes, many people have a desire to protrude power over others. Yes, many people have lack of knowledge of what is dangerous or not. Yes, some people are envy into their hearts. And as WWII showed well in occupied Europe, some people have a desire and gets a good feeling of giving in other fellow countrymen and good citizen to the police. Some should be ashamed in these cases.
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rfs
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Post by rfs on Jul 16, 2015 13:35:42 GMT 1
You are quite right Ford. Sadly, harmless collectors are an easy target and too good an opportunity to miss... It makes politicians look like they are saving the world; Police forces look pro-active (despite being a largely reactive organisation), while facing minimal or no danger whatsoever ; and lowlife journalists something to write about until the next story comes along. RFS
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Post by eastwood on Jul 16, 2015 20:47:30 GMT 1
You are quite right Ford. Sadly, harmless collectors are an easy target and too good an opportunity to miss... It makes politicians look like they are saving the world; Police forces look pro-active (despite being a largely reactive organisation), while facing minimal or no danger whatsoever ; and lowlife journalists something to write about until the next story comes along. RFS + 1 !
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