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Post by fred on Dec 9, 2014 11:46:28 GMT 1
Hi Scott,
As this plate is dated 1941 and the KS 750 is being mentioned, be aware (you may of course already know) that KS 750 production did not start until approx OCTOBER 1941, so it is only a small chance that it is for a KS 750 sidecar, so its more likely for a KS 600 or 800 etc.,
And as you rightly point out the sidecar number 25465 has no connection with the KS 750 number sequences, it could also be for another make of motorbike that Zundapp supplied sidecars for.
cheers paul
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Post by fred on Dec 8, 2014 17:17:01 GMT 1
hi,
Are your sure ? its it stamped Z.S.W., so is that Zundapp Seitenwagen ?
cheers Paul
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Post by fred on Apr 26, 2014 11:44:23 GMT 1
Hi Opelblitz, yes that is it as fitted to a Zundapp KS800, I believe your photo is from a 1940 German manual ?, so predates the BMW R75 shown below. cheers PauL cheers PAUL
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Post by fred on Apr 21, 2014 20:56:25 GMT 1
Hello Wilhelm,
First to clarify the situation, what you have is the rack from inside of the rear of the sidecar, and that does have just five raised fixing points, I do not know why, but the parts book also stipulates just five M6 bolts, nuts and washers.
This same rack design was used for the outside pannier position, but the five raised fixing points were deleted and the pannier carrier frame added.
All five sKrad associated with the MG group, Krad 1, Krad 2, Krad 3, Krad 4 and Krad 5, all had the triple ammo tin rack in the rear of the sidecar, although only Krad 1 actually carried an MG, the other krads were support vehicles, carrying more ammunition, a Dreibein, a Lafette 34 and more single and double spare barrel containers. Also all 5 Krads carried a double drum MG belt tin and its carrier rack.
For your interest I have equipped my R75 as Krad 4, with 10 ammo tins, a Lafette 34,a twin drum MG belt tins and carrier rack and a single spare barrel container. this is according to the specification issued in WWII, apart from that I added the triple ammo rack to one pannier position.
cheers PAUL.
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Post by fred on Apr 21, 2014 12:32:58 GMT 1
Hi Wilhelm, The only WWII photo I have ever seen of this rack, its in Italy probably 1943 and it is most likely Fallschirm Pioneer Batt 21, here the rack is located on the rear of the BMW R75, but it could of course be fixed onto any of the three pannier locations. I have put mine on the front because my rear pannier is full of batteries and other electrics. cheers PAUL cheers
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Post by fred on Apr 20, 2014 20:15:06 GMT 1
Hi Wilhelm,
That is excellent, virtually identical to my new-copy frame, I added the half wing-nut and lock to mine for security reasons, the WWII photo I have seen looks identical to your (and my) rack, but I am sure there were variations in detail on original racks.
When I bought the new-made rack last year, its handle was identical to the one seen in the first post from opelblitz, in that it was the same as the folding handle on an ammunition tins, but I took it off as the WWII photo shows a fixed handle like yours. But it is probable that both handle types were used originally.
Are there any dates and ordnance stamped codes on your rack ?
cheers paul
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Post by fred on Apr 20, 2014 16:31:50 GMT 1
Hi, my new made ammo rack from last year, has small detail differences, but is the same as one seen in a WWII photos. cheers PAUL
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Post by fred on Apr 19, 2014 20:37:30 GMT 1
Hi, Yes, these racks did exist in WWII, but this may be a copy rack, (ammo boxes genuine of course), last year I bought two new made racks from a guy in Germany, they were supplied in natural metal finish of course. Its is also amazing that the rack and ammo boxes have stayed together for 70 years and all have exactly the same colour and "dirty" parts,they look identical to various fake Volkswagen parts, in terms of "finish", as are often shown on a well known VW 166 website. Nice item of course, but is the rack genuine maybe its just a coincidence that when those new made racks were offered for sale as recently as last year, now, an "original" appears on e-bay just a few months later cheers PAul
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Post by fred on Jan 4, 2014 17:33:42 GMT 1
Hello Moderator,
Are there any answers for all those strange titles in the "last post" column ? there are at leas 8 very odd titles, should they be opened or what ??
cheers paul
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Post by fred on Dec 20, 2013 20:39:08 GMT 1
hello Moderator,
What are all the strange thread titles that are on several of your headings, is it wise to open them or will it cause a virus problem on my system ?
cheers Paul
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Post by fred on Jun 27, 2013 15:45:25 GMT 1
Hi, It was a good event, you do not often see one of these at a show !! cheers leonard Attachments:
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Post by fred on Jun 7, 2013 7:47:36 GMT 1
Hello WWW, Thank you for the photos.
To me this trailer and its tow bar are not proof of WWII use behind a motorcycle, this design of tow bar could have been added at ant time, for example 5 years after the end of WWII, and there would still be 63 years for it to get very rusty and very old looking.
Whilst there is every possibility of the Jf8 being towed by motorised vehicles, it is not designed for that, there are no electrics and no mudguards, which were a standard motorised requirement at the time.
The sKrad towbars were for the towing of small paks, flaks and artillery, but the sKrads were very much overloaded for this job, but by 1941 the Kettenkrad came into production and did this kind of work much better and easier.
I recently modified four Kettenkrad trailers, all had had their original WWII towing designs removed, and some other post war tow loops added, they were all different and came from different parts of Europe originally. now all four are as the original WWII design.
So post war changes do occur, and these were all very rusty and old also.
The extra tubular loop and clamp, assuming they are WWII even, look like they should be pointing vertically, and then could be used to hold "something" across the top of the trailer.
cheers PAUL
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Post by fred on Mar 9, 2013 18:01:01 GMT 1
Hi Robert,
very interested, so what price ?
cheers Paul
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Post by fred on Feb 25, 2013 14:45:27 GMT 1
Hi Hans and Sdkfz,
Great piece of investigation and result, congratulations.
Apparently the 20 (Geb) Armee in late 1944 withdrew from N Russia and N Finland into N Norway and absorbed the 21 Armee and thereby controlled all German troops in Norway.
XXXVI (Geb) AK in the autumn of 1944 also withdrew fron N Finland to Norway.
XIX (Geb) AK also withdrew fron N Finland to Norway in autumn 1944.
cheers PAUL
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Post by fred on Feb 2, 2013 20:47:41 GMT 1
Hi Lolo, If you do not have a data plate the chassis number is also stamped on the front chassis member, top edge drivers side, on an extra welded on little plate.
For later vehicles the chassis stamp could also be found on the side of the front chassis or on the passenger side of the front chassis member.
So have a look with a torch and knife
cheers PAUL
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